tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post5561996279294255212..comments2024-02-27T17:43:37.207-05:00Comments on View From the Racetrack Grandstand: True ConfessionsThat Blog Guyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-8836220089971916262009-09-17T10:11:18.916-04:002009-09-17T10:11:18.916-04:00Fair enough Pacingguy, thanks for your honest answ...Fair enough Pacingguy, thanks for your honest answer although we disagree. Muscle Hill has taken on all comers on bigger tracks and has destroyed them for the most part where ever he has gone. That is enough for me. I have little doubt Muscle Hill could go on the half. <br /><br />You mention the Yonker Trot, which had a very suspect field without him, what would the field have been like if he decided to go? I suspect he would have had another training mile. So, if he stayed flat on the half without breaking, which he has never done, he could be considered the best in your eyes. Interesting......Degenerate Bloggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-46106454188290177882009-09-16T18:23:51.162-04:002009-09-16T18:23:51.162-04:00For my last comments on the subject...
To me a g...For my last comments on the subject... <br /><br />To me a great trotter would have raced in the Yonkers Trot and/or the Colonial Trot. A great horse does not race just on a mile track; he shows ability on other size tracks. Does Muscle Hill have the ability to race on a half mile track, a 5/8th mile track and beat the best in his class as a three year old? If Muscle Hill races once against a field of top three year old trotters on a track other than a mile oval, I will join the chorus for Muscle Hill being the greatest. In the meanwhile I look forward to Lexington and hope to see if the circumstances warrant, a sub 1:50 mile. <br /><br />Look at Well Said. He raced at Woodbine, The Meadowlands, The Meadows and he is heading to the Delaware County Fair for the Little Brown Jug. Is he the greatest 3yo pacer of all time? Far from it, but you know what makes watching him exciting? He takes on the best of his class on all different size ovals. <br /><br />Shame we can't say the same about Muscle Hill.That Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-61029478544809184982009-09-16T17:39:46.356-04:002009-09-16T17:39:46.356-04:00To answer your question, your lack of enthusiasm f...To answer your question, your lack of enthusiasm for a great horse. You said he does nothing for you when it comes to his races. You mention the connections as much as you do the horse.<br /><br />Now, if you could answer mine, what does he have to do to be considered the "greatest" of all time? I get the impression that that is impossible.Degenerate Bloggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-76943890342994889752009-09-16T14:02:11.967-04:002009-09-16T14:02:11.967-04:00Degenerate Blogger, what makes you think I have co...Degenerate Blogger, what makes you think I have contempt for Muscle Hill? I think he is one of the best in his era. I have no problems with his ownership. Is it because I won't say 'great'? Great is a term used to easily. Last year Dewey was the greatest and now? Only through the eyes of history can we say who is the greatest. Also, speed is a sign of a speed baller, nothing more. It is how one dominates your opposition consistently which matters. <br /><br />BTW, I wouldn't say Muscle Hill is early in his career; come November it will be all over, heading to the breeding shed. <br /><br />I just can't get emotionally involved in horses that does almost as much racing in qualifiers as he does in actual races all in the eyes to maximize his breeding value.That Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-60359731129662535072009-09-16T10:36:09.524-04:002009-09-16T10:36:09.524-04:00I just have a hard time understanding your contemp...I just have a hard time understanding your contempt for Muscle Hill. So it is his connections that are causing your lack of excitement?<br /><br />While it is still early in his career, only 17 starts with 16 wins, he has proven to be one of the best in the last 20 years. What would he have to do to become the greatest trotter of all time in your opinion or is that even possible given the different era's of racing, period? Go 1:49.3 or lower and set more TR's?<br /><br />A HOF'er friend of mine who has seen them all said last year MH was the fastest trotter he had ever seen. I tend to hold off on such brazen statements but, MH has done nothing to change his opinion. Peck has stated the speed records are not important, do you believe him Pacingguy?Degenerate Bloggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-40034890613172203872009-09-15T15:37:32.595-04:002009-09-15T15:37:32.595-04:00I don't know if Muscle Hill is one of the best...I don't know if Muscle Hill is one of the best trotters ever; the game has changed so much I don't know if we can ever make that comparison with any certainty. I will certainly concede he is the best three year old trotting colt of the last twenty years. <br /><br />I appreciate Muscle Hill for what he is. With syndication demands now requiring the same exact formula being used each yaer, I just can't get emotionally attached to him.<br /><br />However, I should not despair. With all the stakeholders worrying about themselves, if racing doesn't straigthen its act out the breeding market will collapse and then the horses will race everywhere, including the half mile ovals, taking on all comers once again. <br /><br />While I want to see the horses racing all over, it is not the way I want to see it happen.That Blog Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15487597769210721585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-50145531476566120122009-09-15T15:03:57.403-04:002009-09-15T15:03:57.403-04:00Let me say that yes, you are spoiled Pacingguy. M...Let me say that yes, you are spoiled Pacingguy. Muscle Hill's own success and lack of flash, he just goes out and dominates, does not make for exciting racing. Add to the fact that this is the second year of such boredom, such distain is not warranted.<br /><br />You are watching perhaps the best trotter ever....enjoy the ride. Winning should never be boring...Degenerate Bloggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4684463172854959042.post-5057685235426099512009-09-15T11:03:23.309-04:002009-09-15T11:03:23.309-04:00pacingguy i totally agree. Seeing a horse take the...pacingguy i totally agree. Seeing a horse take the same dodgy route as the last two great 3 year old trotters does make it less exciting. And to see him not really have anyone that remotely looks like they can beat him.riceownz2noreply@blogger.com